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Thursday, June 26, 2008

The disgusting habits of the Chinese

I haven't talked too much about the personal hygiene habits of the Chinese people I have come across but after a few recent conversations, I feel I need to reveal the course of today's events. Keep in mind please that nothing about this is abnormal here in China in anyway. This is just how it is here. To everyone around, every bit of this is completely normal not to mention completely acceptable.

After breakfast at my guest house in Chengdu I flagged down a cab, showed him my bus ticket and we were off to the bus station. The windows were of course down as always so I was enjoying the morning air even though we were in the middle of rush hour traffic. I was excited about the journey before me as I was heading to Xian where in two days, Allison would be meeting me. As I watched the city come to life from my window, I heard the first hocking sound of the day. The cab driver gave a good snort and hock and managed to score some phlegm from deep down inside before spitting it out of the window. I don't know why this surprises me every time I hear it seeing as how, everyone here does it quite constantly. We continue our ten minute journey to the bus station and are stopped at an intersection where I glance out the window to notice a frail little Chinese man come out of a restaurant wearing an apron and stoop down by the curb. He is carrying a pan of water which he proceeds to set down at his side. It is pretty early and there is some food cooking just outside the restaurant on the sidewalk as is typical here in China. After setting the pan down, he proceeds to splash some water on his face, takes a finger and smashes one side of his nostril and proceeds to blow enough snot from his nose to fill up a small glass. From there, he moves on to the other side where he performs the same exercise and is again equally successful. The man then promptly wipes his hands on his apron to remove any excess snot, dips them into the pan of water, washes his face and repeats this same morning ritual before returning to the food he was cooking just outside of his restaurant.

Waiting on the bus, I am sitting on my backpack on the asphalt in between two buses waiting on mine to pull up. I am surrounded by the smell of diesel fumes and cigarette smoke. Along with the low pitched hum of the engines around me, I also hear the continuous hocking sound coming from the throats of so many of the men around me. Standing right next to me is a man who in the fifteen minutes I have been sitting there has created at least ten small pools of saliva and phlegm not six inches from my feet and the bag that I am sitting on. My bus arrives and I need to move over a bit to make room for it to park. I pick up my bag and stand off to the side. The bus is finally settled into it's spot, I know I will need to wait a bit so I start to set my bag down. As it touches the ground, I look down and see the spots of phlegm right next to it. Realizing my bag is probably sitting in more of the disgusting discharge, I search the ground for a cleaner spot and am unsuccessful. I will have to wear my bag until I board the bus.

When the bus originally pulled up, I thought I noticed a kind of fishy smell but I didn't think anything of it. Now, you have to keep in mind, that this is actually a really nice bus. Super fancy, toilet inside, cushy seats, give you water bottles, you name it, this bus had it. It was time to put my luggage beneath the bus and as usual, everyone shoved me out of the way to be the first to get there bag on board. Waiting in line here is unheard of. As I lifted my bag to set it beneath the bus, I realized where the source of the fish smell was coming from. Obviously this bus had either been transporting fish recently or was doing so now. There were streaks of liquid all over the bottom of the luggage compartment so I reluctantly set my bag down hoping that it would not smell like a can of tuna fish when I retrieved it in Xian.

At 9:00, the bus engine cranked up and I realized that the bus was not even half full so I moved towards the back where there was some empty seats and I could have two seats to myself for the rest of the journey. We rolled out of the bus station and the man sitting near me decided he would take advantage of the very back row which consisted of five empty seats. After changing into a pair of shorts in the wide open bus, he then took off his shirt and shoes and stretched out across the seats. I couldn't believe the guy was on this nice, VIP type bus and had his shirt off. I mean, the A/C was working quite well and I was even a bit cold but this guy was lounging around on the bus as if he were sitting by a swimming pool.

In the aisles of the bus were small cardboard boxes with plastic bags lining them that I assumed were for trash. While my assumption was correct, I realized that these boxes were also for the phlegm that everyone would be generating throughout the trip. It was like clock work. About every two minutes, another good hocking would come and someone would lean into the aisle and let the saliva and snot drip from there mouth toward the box and let it hang down until they were sure that it would not hit the floor and make it's way into the container. This would continue for the entire journey.

Now, I am not sure what it is about the culture here that makes everyone enjoy listening to everything so loud, but that is just how it is. People talking seem more like they are shouting at each other than having a conversation. It is almost like they are stuck in a cycle that they can't figure out how to get out of. Everywhere you go, there is music or television blaring so loud that you can't here yourself think. This includes on the bus. Combine that with everyone shouting in lieu of talking and it is really really loud all the time here. Do you think the people are loud because they have to talk over the tv or is the tv loud so that everyone can hear it over the loud talking? It is a difficult question to figure out. I don't really believe there is an answer to it. I feel over time, it has all just become acceptable and such a part of life here that no one questions it, excluding of course any foreigners that happen to visit the country.

The bus pulls into a typical Chinese bus stop for some lunch. It consists of a shed that they refer to as a toilet and a restaurant with a buffet set up with all kinds of strange foods. I am starving and I need to urinate before lunch. I walk to the toilet where I find exactly what I expect. A room with no walls and several slots in the floor. The floor is covered in piss and shit and the slots reveal small slides covered in shit and toilet paper that lead down to a massive pile of shit, connected on the other side by the girls slots which I can only assume to be the same. I straddle one slot while men squat down doing their business on either side of me and I attempt not to pea all over them. Staring down at the massive pile of shit and holding my breath, I am rapidly loosing my appetite.

I get into line and am handed a tray with rice and I pick a few scoops of food that looks like it won't send me back to squatting over one of the slots in the toilet with all the world to see. The only seat in the restaurant left is next to two men who were on the bus with me. I begin eating my food with my chopsticks when I look over and see the man next to me put his face directly into his rice with his chopsticks laying just beneath the surface of the rice pile as if it was gesture of courtesy to say, I am actually using my chopsticks and he begins sucking rice directly into his mouth without an attempt at moving his chopsticks. I am disgusted but at the same time, I analyzed the situation. Most of the time, you are eating out of a small bowl which you usually hold in one hand and bring it close to your mouth to avoid spilling food. It is even acceptable to put your lips on the bowl and scrape food from it into your mouth. Now, without the small bowl, the man is essentially recreating the situation in the best way he can figure out with the large tray of food in front of him. The situation only serves to reinforce my hatred of chopsticks as being an archaic way of transferring food from your dish into your mouth. Had you given the man a fork and a spoon, he could have easily eaten everything on his plate without having to stick his face directly into the pile of rice to slurp it up. Did I mention that this is also happening everywhere around the restaurant?

Let's move on now. There is plenty more I could say about the meal and the way in which everyone was eating but that would make my already long story even longer. I am feeling a bit malnourished since the only protein in the meal was tofu so I buy a couple of packages of peanuts and sit down at a now empty table and wait for the bus to depart. I find myself sitting in front of the sink that is out in the open where the dishes are washed and everyone is able to wash there hands after their meals. The floor is covered in spit, bones and bits of food in every direction. I realize I can't find a decent spot to set my small bag down that won't coat it in bodily fluids and half digested food so I set it on my lap and calmly wait.

From across the room, or actually more of a porch kind of thing that we are all eating on, a man walks over to the sink. He washes his hands, splashes some water on his face and then proceeds to put his lips around the tap and begin sucking water in so that he can spit it out into the sink. I don't mean that he is just getting water out of the tap, he physically has his lips wrapped around it to avoid getting any water on his face I guess. After a few runs, it is the next mans turn. He washes his hands and rinses his face and then proceeds to close off one side of his nose, discharge as much snot as he can get out, follows that up with the other side, washes his hands again, gives a good solid hock and spits the final bit of phlegm that he has in his system into the sink. Several other men and women in line and pretty much repeat this same process until I finally re board the bus.

Back on the bus, the journey proceeds as before, men lounging with shirts off, constant hocking and spitting sounds filling the air and the loud television blasting some Chinese comedy that everyone on the bus really seems to enjoy. It is just another day in China and observing the personal hygiene has been something that has built up over time. I haven't talked about it much as it is so overwhelming that I didn't think I could convey it in the form of a story. This isn't the half of it. Of all the places in the world I have been, I have never seen or smelled worse toilet facilities. I haver never observed such commonly accepted public body discharges of all sorts (there is still plenty that I have not mentioned) and I have never heard anyone talk as loudly as the people here do. You could easily take a trip to China, spend a bit more money and never see any of this, but throughout my travels here, it has been commonplace and something that I accept. It is ingrained into their culture and no one here seems to mind. They probably find us strange for demanding clean toilets, talking amongst ourselves in a reasonable tone, never spitting anything up in public and using strange little tissues to blow our noses.

198 comments:

a n n a said...

Damn, every time I consider leaving the unworldly confines of Bham and joining you on some part of your trek, I log on and inevitably find the most current post to be a visual vignette of OCD and hypochondriac torture! LOL Miss you and will write soon. xoxo

Allison said...

Are you making fun of my people?

Anonymous said...

Chinese people are not much more considerate when they live in Western cultures either. Still the noisy eating, sniffing and snorting, etc.

Mike said...

...I have few words to describe how completely and ridiculously racist this post was. How can you actually consider yourself a worldly traveler if you can't understand that you are going to encounter customs and societal norms that aren't considered normal by your standards? There are no Chinese blogs that wreck on deep rooted southern racism, or lynchings, or race related violence. But for some reason you think it is within your right to attack a culture and civilization that has existed for over 5000 years!? Please, for the sake of everyone involved, stop traveling, stop writing, sell your traveling gear, and go home. You'll find things are a lot more "like they are back home" when you are back home you racist pig. Thanks

Michael Soo said...

As a Taiwanese American, I can say that without a doubt Dan's posting was accurate and I do not take offense.

I have been to Taiwan several times and I have witnessed the same crazy snorting and horrid restrooms. These are not understatements.

Also, Chinese people in America can also be slow to adapt. I work with several that employ the "shovel food into an open mouth" eating technique--it is not pretty. Talking with a mouth full of animal carcass and rice is fairly normal at our lunch table at work.

It is just gross and Mike needs to chill-ax! You can be a world-traveler and still be appalled by the customs of locals, which happens to me sometimes the down the block from where I live

BeautifulNightmare said...

I have to say, i didnt find anything racist about this post! It was the truth! i live in malaysia and you have no idea what to expect here. We have diff cultures and a huge amount of disgusting habits. You have the malays, chinese and indians put together, and all you get is a very disgusting sight. Its ironic that we are a developed country. Some habits just die hard. I am disgusted myself.

Anonymous said...

I work with several Chinese immigrants who behave exactly as described above. (I live and work and was born in the USA.)

I find their eating pretty disgusting. I think it's just a matter of having been taught to "chew with my mouth closed" when I was a child. But my Chinese co-workers: sheesh! It really reminds me of children deliberately trying to gross each other out. The smacking, chomping, slurping, belching---it sounds like livestock feeding time.

My office has an open seating plan; the office itself is so quiet that I can hear every little noise my colleagues make. Occasionally, one guy will come into work chewing gum, punctuating the silence with random chomps and smacks. It's one of those things that, once you notice it, you can't ignore it.

Also, even though we have urinals, I've gone into the bathroom and witnessed one of my Chinese co-workers backing away from the urinal before he's actually done, leaving a nice little puddle of urine on the floor. He must miss comforts of home.

Anonymous said...

Regardless of cultural nature, disregard for cleaning habits to the extreme of causing a health hazards is universally unacceptable.

I am in favor of the saying: "If You go to Rome, do as the Romans do", however, when set in neutral grounds, multi-ethnic encounters should be regulated by common sense and universally accepted habits.

Chinese people seem to disregard this. They can be as unkempt and dirty as they want in their own country. After all, it is their right. But, when living in western cultures they should take into account that their disgusting habits will not be well received and, perhaps, not accepted.

I have endured the horrible habits of these people. They regard cleaning as optional. Are incapable of emptying a trash can and will keep putting rubbish on it even though it is full. I will not go into the details of how they use the bathroom as it is ghastly and nauseating.

Worst of all, they do know their cleaning habits are clearly sub-par. However, they are arrogant and will disregard any hint and/or direct reference to the issue.

In conclusion, Chinese people are disgusting slobs who do not respect the culture of other people and try to impose their disgusting habits to others.

Anonymous said...

Wow, I can't believe you would say that this is not racist. Can you honestly say that it is specifically the chinese that act this way. Everywhere I go in public, when travelling in all different cities I see people being disgusting in all kinds of ways, all different races. Anytime you stereotype someone as a race, you are being racist. Just because you saw some chinese people doing this doesnt mean that all, every single one of them do it. By saying chinese are disgusting, you are saying all of them. I know plenty of Chinese people who are very clean, mannerly and polite. Actually I have never met a disgusting chinese person. I think all of you racist on here need to learn that this world is changing andd racism is not accepted in this world. You want to point out how disgusting peoples habits are well maybe you should think about how evil you are being by being racist. I think evil is worst than disgusting. I feel so bad for you, you must have had bad experiences in your life to say such horrible things. I hope that someday something good will happen for you and you will see life in a better way.

Anonymous said...

ONLY STUPID SHITTY PERSON WOULD SAY SUCH STUFF TOWARDS A WHOLE COUNTRY'S PEOPLE.

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Anonymous said...

Oh Dan, All I can say is I feel your pain on a DAILY basis. Living in San Francisco amongst a LARGE & ever growing Chinese immigrant population that refuses to assimilate to any degree, or adhere to basic mores of conduct & hygiene or even learn the recognized language of the nation in which they have elected to reside I'm insulted and appalled most times I'm on street. All I can say is by their refusal to participate in the courtesies and standards of conduct we expect as Americans born & raised in the US and insisting on conducting themselves like livestock instead of a sophisticated culture when in public we shall all continue to pay the price.

Anonymous said...

Oh Dan, All I can say is I feel your pain on a DAILY basis. Living in San Francisco amongst a LARGE & ever growing Chinese immigrant population that refuses to assimilate to any degree, or adhere to basic mores of conduct & hygiene or even learn the recognized language of the nation in which they have elected to reside I'm insulted and appalled most times I'm on street. By their refusal to participate in the courtesies and standards of conduct we expect as Americans born & raised in the US and insisting on conducting themselves like livestock instead of a sophisticated culture when in public we shall all continue to pay the price.

Anonymous said...

There's nothing racist about this blog. As Dan was traveling in China, he was obviously only writing about the Chinese. So although he singles out a specific race, in this context it is not racist. Simply a travel story. I've been traveling extensively through China as well, and have seen the same disgusting habits and toilets. I've even seen a woman let her little child urinate in the aisle of a bus.
The Chinese may have a very old culture, it certainly isn't a great culture concerning hygiene and manners.

Anonymous said...

What a dumb goober you are

Anonymous said...

Everyone who is criticising this post for being racist seriously needs to re-analyze what constitutes as racism. Honestly it was a travel story in China, so obviously he would be writing about only Chinese people. If it was India he would be writing about only Indians. If he were on some hypothetical habitated planet he would be writing about its people to. Stop being so offended by Dan's post, you should feel offended by the lack of manners and hygiene by anyone of any race in a devoloped, civilized nation. After all, developed nations are "developed" for a reason. Their society, technology, medecine and people have developed to what are generally accepted levels of deveopment.

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Anonymous said...

Though some of these things are probably too, this guy kinda sounds like an uptight dickwad. And a whiner. China has a ridiculous amount of people, and if they were as 'clean' as Americans are, our carbon output would probably increase to over 900ppm. So shut your trap, you polluting arsehole. And I've seen much more disgusting habits in America, where people allow MOLD to grow on their food, never shower, scratch their asses and continue to eat. Where doctors and visitors don't wash their hands and spread diseases all over patients in hospitals. where they litter, and have raised shit children. Frequently do drugs, and disrespect their elders. The thing about western culture is that you believe that "White People" are the superior race, and are therefore right. Personally, at least Chinese people are considerate. :/

And I'm really appalled at these comments, because the writer himself was just ranting. I constantly have to put up with the annoying parent's of my peers, and their disgusting habits, which involve having sex in public places, giving each other pubic lice, slitting themselves, and smoking pot with their parents. Chinese children have good morals, work ridiculously hard, and love their parents. And before you complain about your Chinese coworkers, all Chinese people that I know who immigrated from China make at least 1000$ dollars a day, if not more. Maybe if you work hard one day, you'll get half that much.

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Anonymous said...

i just dropped a plastic bag on the street in Shanghai getting my lunch out of it, being raised well enough, I picked it back up for disposal.

Unfortunately when picking it up I managed to cover my hand in a thick globule of phlegm that was on the ground.

Generally*, the Chinese are pretty backwards with their hygiene, anyone from the developed world who has spent some time here will most likely testify the same and it's is not racist to say this because it's true.

The sad truth is that there is a huge amount of ignorance and paradigms that exist because of brainwashing and propaganda here, people generally believe that mucus is better out than in, unaware that by spitting you are potentially spreading diseases and making the place foul. It's not uncommon for people to think that owning a tiger claw will keep away "evil spirits" despite it being superstitious bullshit and that hunting rare tiger is heinous. It might seem outrageous to say, some people think that eating cat and dog will help them keep warm in winter because the animals are furry [I have no objection to people eating cat or dog if it's the taste that gets them going] but it's also true.

Generally citizens in the west are clean, polite, hygenic, and sanctimonious. Generally in China they are peaceful, ignorant and unsavoury.

*Generalising is not racist. Although generally it doesn't always truly reflect the complete truth.

I'm going to wash my hands now.

Jo said...

@Allison: have you read any of that? its a big fat YES

Anonymous said...

Damn, those Chinese are DISGUSTING. I never EVER want to go there.

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Anonymous said...

It was nice to read this blog. Very accurately described habits of most chinese. All chinese folks that I know have one obtrusive habit or another.

This is not about making fun of another race. It is about observations.
I'm not Chinese or American. Coming from a mid class family in India, 'n having set foot on almost all of its states, i have seen some bad personal hygiene but not as rampant as Dan says. These kinda habits are universally frowned upon.

Anonymous said...

To all ther people who say this post is racist I suggest you actually travel in China. I've been twice and I live in Hong Kong. China is another world in comparison with Hong Kong. The beahviour described in this post is the normal everyday behaviour of the Chinese. I can't see how making an observation of their habits is racist. They do spit anywhere in public, they do talk loudly, they will spit undigested food and bones on the floor etc. My favourite is when travelling on a bus to have two or more locals have a shouting conversation through your head. They could sit next to each other, but no, they'll sit in front and behind you and literally shout through your head as if your not there. For a Westerner travelling in China can be a culture shock to say the least.

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I lived in China for two years. What Dan wrote is not racist; it's sickeningly true. What Dan didn't mention was the rampant farting and smoking that takes place on public buses and the nasty dental hygiene. While not all Chinese are as nasty as Alabama Dan described, the vast uneducated population of China is that way. I love the Chinese people. Some of my favorite people in the world are Chinese, but that doesn't make their hygiene and manners any better.

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Anonymous said...

The Chinese are vile and disgusting to say the least and its not just a stereotype. I too have been there on a number of occasions and have had the unfortunate opportunity of being around them. It's their country so I don't really care, but what I do care about is when they come here to the U.S. and expect us to put up with their crap. They are disgusting, cheap, lying people. That's just the facts.

Jenna said...

I currently live in Vancouver, Canada, and have moved here from Ottawa a little over 3 years ago. I have to tell you, I have never considered myself a racist, and have always found myself quite accepting of other cultures and their habits. However, I'd have to agree on a whole that most non western born Chinese people are disgusting, disrespectful and incredibly racists, especially towards white people.

I've seen them hork and spit on buses, refuse to sit next to white people on the bus or in public, not to mention they are the only culture here in Vancouver that refuse to integrate themselves into Canadian society and don't even get me started on their treatment of animals.

I mean, it's gotten to the point where I don't even like living in this city anymore. It's just sad.

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When I was a young boy, the first time I witnessed a person fart in public was at a chinese grocery store. The owner farted out loud next to the bag of rice my parents were about to buy. Chinese are dirty. The only people I have ever seen picking their noses have been asians. I was walking through china town and saw a woman vomit yellow puke on the floor. Ok everyone has vomited a few times -but what disturbed me is that she didn't even flinch - it didn't phase her a bit she just kept walking like it happens all the time. I have to admit I like
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Very interesting post! I never met a Chinese where I live (Bucharest), though I know there is a growing community in the city. There is a lot of talk about Chinese growth, culture etc. to the point that one really becomes curious. I will probably never go to China so I'm grateful for insights coming from people who actually travel or live there and share their experience. As for the ones who stick labels (e.g. racist), I would simply ignore them. They clearly show no adherence to the culture of meaningful and graceful dialogue promoted by Western civilization.

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I'm from Hong Kong, and I would have to agree with you. I'v been to China, and some of the things the people there do can drive you out of your mind. It is apalling and I think it puts a bad reputation on Chinese people. However, not all are this inconsiderate so please don't perceive us all like this. We do get upset at times when we see such things they do and believe me, we don't like it anymore than they do. They put shame and disgrace on to all asian people, especially Chinese, who don't all act in such disgusting manners.

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There are Chinese people who behave in such way. I find it disgusting and I am of Chinese descent. However, not all Chinese are like that. Many Chinese are equally disgusted by such behavior.

But if you learn about their history, they really went through shit (mass famine, war after war, political persecution blahblah) in the last century and please be a little more understanding and stop generalizing... give them twenty years, I'd say you'll see a lot less of this type of behavior.

And besides, so what if they are dirty. It's really not the worst in the world. We've had perfectly mannered and dressed people do terrible terrible things (like the Nazis). I'd take a spitter over a perfectly dressed and coiffed Nazi mass murderers any day...

So I'd say, spitting really is not the most barbaric thing to happen on the planet earth, and stop being so cringed by everything you see. If you open your eyes wide enough (and more importantly your heart wide enough) maybe you'll see beauty around you.

Anonymous said...

I am a Malaysian chinese. Your statement shows the exact truth. I have visited China once & that will be last for me. The modern China do not tally with the Chinese. Re-education is the key, Long way to go.

Sheepfield said...

As long as these descriptions are accurate and objective, it is inappropriate to accuse Dan of being a racist. As a Chinese student living in PRC (the motherland of this so called "custom", right?), I have to say that this sort of "custom" should never be an excuse to justify their reluctance reluctance to acknowledge their embarrassment. After all, hygiene is not a matter of culture but a matter of civilization.

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I spent two months in a small town near Xian just before the 2008 Olympics. What Dan describes was still happenning, but the Chinese were being taught "Olympic" |English and behaviour. They were renovating places and asking us(foreigners) to comment even if it were negative. Children under 5 or so (couldn't estimate well) wore bottoms slit at the back and they would just sqaut on the side of the road and pass out their stuff while the parent waited. tissue would be used and thrown right there in the street.
However, I found the Chinese hardworking, helpful, polite and desirous to achieve great things,disciplined, and very fitness conscious so that they exercised as teams every morning and evening.

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Its funny how if your white and make a comment about a person from another country then your a racist, but if your Black, Asian, Indian or any other nationality for that matter you can say anything you like about white people and thats not concidered racist! what double standards! Some of the most racist people ive met are African Americans (yes slavery was disgusting and wrong, but its gone and we've tried to move on..let it go and forgive and make the world better by not digging up the mistakes of our great great grandfathers and tring to take it out on every white person!), not all as some are lovely but a lot of them. Anytime a white person says something to a black person that they dont like they get called racist, but how often do you hear about black people calling white people nasty names cause of there skin color? Mearly talking about what happens in another county doesnt make you racist! I live in a muti-racial county and have many friends from other backgrounds. Yet as a white man I get descriminated against in my own country by imigrants who charge me more for goods in there shops, Talk about me in front of me in there langauge or get attacked by groups of Lebanese guys, or just get treated as a second class citizen because im white. As one other post said "when in Rome, do as the Romans" well if people want to blow snot out of there nose in public in China...then fine, but dont come into my country and do it!

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I work for a Chinese airline but live in a western country. If the Chinese have been around for 5000 years and have such a cultured civillisation..then why do I ALWAYS find that they block the aircraft SINKS up with urine,crap, snot, vomit and feminine byproducts? Iv worked on aircraft from over 20 countries and NEVER seen this on any other countries aircraft! What a great culture!

AC said...

this post isn't racist, it's honest. yes it's a 5000 year old culture with many great accomplishments to its credit...and appalling personal habits, period.

i've witnessed chinese friends (who would never dream of exhibiting such behavior at western restaurants) in chinese restaurants surrounded by other chinese people regurgitate gristle by leaning their heads over the table, opening their mouths and retching until the thing landed on the table in front of them.

needles to say i didn't finish my meal & have never again accepted another invite to an "authentic" chinese restaurant.

andora said...

i'm chinese indonesian.i've been living in indonesia for my whole live and i remember the last time i went to china and i'll never go back again is because of this..i lost my appetite everyday and i'm always in nausea
i don't find this post offensive and this author is just being honest
eventhough i'm chinese i am 100% agree with this one..it's the truth accept it.

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Im so glad i have stumbled upon this. I travelled through China on a tight budget for 3 months last year. I went all over the country. I can't stop smiling reading this. Brings back so many memories. Chinese people in China.Are.Revolting. I have never had such a strong, negative opintion of a race before but there you go. They are all dirty monkeys who don't appreciate the amazing technology they have and cities they live in.
I saw a man shit in the middle of the road. Squatting in broad daylight with his pants around his ankles and squeezing a great big turd out of his ass.
The spit bins on the perfect brand new lovely buses!! the split up the crotch of all the babies clothes. I saw a mother hold her naked baby over a bin in a train station so the baby could piss in it.
I was travelling for seven months overall and China was smack bang in the middle of my travels. If i had headed there first, I would have picked up some bad illnesses for sure. As it was, i didnt touch anything but rice and steamed green veggies. and even then i was always a bit iffy about eating it.
Having said all this, I deeply miss China with all my heart. The country is fascinating. The land is absolutely stunning. I would go back in a heartbeat despite all the phlegm.

Anonymous said...

you are so true..where i live in malaysia,chinese also have disgusting habits..they're just hard to deal with.i guess when u get the habits from your ancestors..no mater where u live u're still be disgusting and dirty..ugh..

Anonymous said...

In the last several years I have visited Japan and South Korea, and I'm now considering China as the next possible destination. When I told a co-worker about this plan, however, she told me that I should reconsider. China is dirty, filthy, and polluted, and I would be risking my health, or at least my spiritual well being. She is an ethnic Chinese, brought up in the US.

Anonymous said...

The dirtiest people in the world.

Shreya said...

5000 year old civilisation or not, the chinese are a bunch of sick fucks. They unapologetically torture, slaughter and shove any animal they can down their throats and don its skin. Seriously, let ONE species be in peace atleast. But noooo, they gotta kill dogs, cats, monkeys, rats, octopus, squid...and they have to make it super cruel and gruesome...for the fun of it. Seriously, I know that animal abuse exists everywhere but China is so nonchalant about it that it makes me sick.

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In New York City's Chinatown they SPIT all over the place, put their thumb to their nose and blow snot all over the place. They think nothing of picking their nose right in public. In a Chinese bakery I ordered a coffee and the woman behind the counter was picking her nose the stuck her finger in the cup. (Didn't drink that one).

A Chinese guy in a bathroom stall was taking a shit and spitting on the floor at the same time. You can't walk one block through Chinatown without here some ignorant Chinese slob clearing his throat.

Talk about racism these slobs are rascist. Anyone who is not Chinese they consider a "barbarian".

They don't know how to use urinals, they leave puddles of piss right in front of it.

The streets and sidewalks of Chinatown are black with the effing grease they cook with. They also dump the grease into the sewers. On top of the grease is the garbage, the snot and the spit and assorted bits and pieces of food. When it's warm out the stench in Chinatown is unbearable.

In their restaurants they often have fish tanks in the front windows. The fish, eels, lobster, shrimp and crabs are often so jammed in they can't move. Many times there are dead ones, or soon to be dead ones floating civered in fungus and sores.

Bottom line their culture fosters a bunch of disgusting rascist revolting pigs.

And to the politically correct dumbasses, rascism concerns RACE. This is about CULTURAL habits. Ethnic Chinese born in the United States, Singapore, United Kingdom etc. don't act like that.

Anonymous said...

Shut up and get educated! Learn what racism is before you claim it!

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Anonymous said...

Fuck off back to china if you love it so much

Anonymous said...

ughh they eat puppies I just saw a terrible picture

Anonymous said...

true true true

Anonymous said...

Based on my observations of Chinese classmates and TA's in college, former and present Chinese colleagues, and stories told to me by friends, I must say that this post and above sympathetic comments are unfortunately accurate. No amount of Ph.D.'s in computer science can compensate for these people's basic crudeness. They're like a human version of Shrek. The U.S.-born, assimilated ones are okay, but those who just arrived from the mainland are disgusting, rude and crude.

Anonymous said...

i have two colleagues here in our resto/cafe,they exactly what dan said in his journey.they are horribly hocking inside the kitchen and u can hear it even when u are outside because they spit phlegm with too much force :))everytime i talk to them,my face bacome wet because of their saliva.and oh,!also my boss is a chinese,i remember the first day that i met her i thought i stepped shit from outside and stuck to my shoes..just realized lately that the smell like shit are coming from her mouth.

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On my way home from the Bronx to take the train I stopped to get some food at a little Chinese restaurant by Marble Hill, I ordered shrimp lo mein and I was sick for a week, I'm a pretty healthy guy and I have never been that sick in my life, I could not walk home the following day, I felt a kind of nausea I never felt before, I felt dizzy from it and it felt as if the shrimp simply could not pass through my stomach, I could feel it just lodged in my intestine. I remember the kitchen and I watched them cook it but it was tiny as hell, the 3 of them were shoulder to shoulder and I remember them taking my order and giving each other a look, maybe because I'm mixed Asian, Idfk but there was a moment and I took note of it. God only knows how old that shrimp was, I doubt Shrimp Lo Mein is a popular dish ordered by the black or latin people that frequent that place, since then I haven't been to a Chinese restaurant nor do I plan to go to one ever again. I honestly believe they did it on purpose, being part Asian myself it always stuck with me.

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I read the entire post and i find it insufferably (sp?) straightforward and honest. The neighborhood i live in is increasingly becoming populated by chinese, and you bet it's becoming dirtier and stinkier! Now, I have nothing against them but i do find their hygiene and manners appalling. I see them sneezing and coughing into the open air and horking as if they own the block. They are so incredibly rude, pushing you to grab a seat on the train, not saying 'excuse me', ever! Most of them smell and have bad dental habits. You might not believe me but some of them regularly go through the garbage to remove cans and vegetables dumped by store owners!! Where does it end?!? I feel so invaded...it's like my air is being polluted, literally! And don't even get me started on China Town in NYC! as it's beyond words.

I know that some chinese people posting comments feel offended and are crying racism, but let me say this--no one judged them or concluded anything based on the color of their skin or their features. Talking about someone's hygiene is not racist, it's telling the truth!!

And the 'american-born-chinese-girl' calling Dan a racist, i think you're the one who was ranting and you are the racist! So what if China has an incredibly large populatin? That fact should not keep any people from adhering to cleanliness and cleaning up after themselves. How does avoiding horking in public or washing onself in an appropriate spot rather than the curb few feet away from your make-shift open restaurant impact the carbon foot print? Sorry, but your comment was so ignorant, i can't believe you're an American. Your sympathy for your people should not keep you from being objective and realizing that proper hygiene is essential and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that you can't make the street your open toilet (i've witnessed asian mothers here in NY having their boys urinate on tree barks in the open!!), you can't spit in the street since people will trample it and take your germs in to their homes, and that you have to cover your face while sneezing and coughing.

Otherwise, great post. No racism detected!

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Bud Smith said...

Mike said you can't notice these things about the Chinese because of "southern racism, lynchings, and race related violence". Poor Mike. Assuming he's white, he's been taught all his life that white people are bad. Mike thinks he's not bad though, just all the other white people that aren't as enlightened as him. However, I'm sure he works very hard to be able to live in a white neighborhood. Even though it would be much cheaper to live in a black neighborhood. Orwell's "1984" calls this mental illness Doublethink.

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Go back to China. You obviously have nothing but hatred for the white people who built a country far superior to China. If you think China is superior, move there. Of course you won't.

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First he talks about Chinese people because he was in China at this time, it could have been about Indians or French (both being also infamous for their lack of hygiene).
Second of course there are many different countries where average people have poor hygiene, but Chinese people beats the rest of the world hands down when it comes to dirtiness and you can't know it if you haven't lived there.
Third they are not dirty because "China is a third world country with no proper infrastructure" as it is not, Chinese cities are modern with public restrooms everywhere, and that doesn't prevent people from taking a poop anywhere (in the streets, in the malls, in the buses, ...) except in the hole that has been made for this.
So please if you haven't lived in China just close your mouth instead of telling equalitarian well-thinking bullshit.
I been in China first because I started learning Chinese at home, then left 5 years later because of this lack of hygiene, because of the pollution and because I was fed up with all the Mainlanders bullshit about laowais and their insane ignorance of the rest of the world.

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Typical, boast about your people's love for their parents and considerate culture. You might be considerate of people within your culture but your folks couldn't care less about the outside world. And then you go on about how you have friends who make 1000 a day. You materialistic fool. Typical.

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Thats like saying, if my people dont wipe their asses after taking a shit and you find that disgusting, you just live with higher standards. Wtf? And maybe that's because they're probably banned from blogging on these sites thanks in part to chinas great humanitarian of a leader

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Interesting article. Every two minutes on the bus! You know, that is the thing right.. You can understand that people might build up some snot and phlegm, but not enough to justify the amount of hocking that they do daily.

I have a roommate who is Vietnamese, but they also hock and spit. It is also common in Korea (I lived there), and perhaps a few other countries around the region.

He hocks at least 30 times a day. Often, in the morning, for example, maybe about 15 times in a row. And then a bed-time ritual of another 15 times. What surprises me is the number of times though. Surely no one can physically generate that much phlegm and snot assuming they are normally healthy.

So I think it must become a bit of a habit more than anything else; and like coffee (sorry, best analogy off the top of my head), you might start off drinking one a day, but slowly but surely that becomes too little for the addict. Then you have to hock like 15 times even though once, twice or three good times would surely be enough to clear out everything. Not to mention that, when someone has never got into the habit, they don't feel congestion.

For myself, I never hock and spit, but I never feel congestion in the normal day. And I think a lot of non-hockers are like that. In other words, a lot of this hocking is needless. I praise countries like Singapore who outlawed spitting in public. I have never lived there, but I imagine the practice of hocking and spitting would have at least been reduced; if not, have dropped out of the culture, largely altogether.

The thing with it is, it is not something that is physically necessary to do; but it becomes a habit and a ritual. It could be best understood as a cultural practice which once accepted, and common, takes on a life of its own. And then you get this disgusting situation of having to listen, and live with their loogies all around you - which is disgusting.

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Mike...I guess being honest is now also being racist. Maybe of they cleaned up there wouldn't be a need of all that hacking in the first place. I can't imagine all the bacteria and infections being transferred. It's disgusting and SAD

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I am Mexican, saying that just so you know I don't think white people are superior because I am not white myself. Anywho, I think Chinese people have disgusting habits and are hard to work with. I am a college student and work at the university and I can tell you three things
1) They always smell and some of them wear the same clothes for a week/Bad breath/long dirty nails.
2) They are rude, dont say thank you,they push you in lines and fight you for a penny even if they are mistaken and think you are the stupid one.
3)They can't do basic tasks even when you explain them slowly and clearly over 3 times, example filling up a check or swiping a debit card.
Not to mention most of them are racist, specially towards black people. Yes they make a lot of money but they only work and are dull as hell dont know how to have fun or relax and view everyone else as less for it. They also are the ones who see white as superior, covering from the sun and bleaching their skin to be lighter.

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